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Divided Argument

Low Horse

Divided Argument

Will Baude & Dan Epps

Constitution, Constitutional Law, News, Law, Politics, Supreme Court, Government, Legal System, Supreme Court Of The United States, U.s. Supreme Court, Scotus, Supreme Court Justice

4.9676 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Without much introductory ado, we interrupt Will's vacation to give you a thorough breakdown of United States v. Skrmetti, the trans health care case that is one of the most-watched cases of the term.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, yay.

0:02.0

Oh, yay.

0:03.1

The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court.

0:08.0

Unless there is any more question to be able to find an argument in this case.

0:10.8

All persons having business before the Honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States are admonished to give their attention.

0:19.6

Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, unpredictable,

0:23.1

Supreme Court podcast. I'm Dan Epps.

0:25.6

And I'm Will Bowd.

0:27.2

So we are recording this much later at night than we normally do.

0:31.1

You were on a trip somewhere, and this is the only time you could squeeze in.

0:35.0

It's 10 p.m. central time. So I hope our listeners are impressed with

0:42.4

our commitment to the show. I'm actually quite tired. So my analysis will suffer more than it

0:49.7

usually does from my own natural limitations. Maybe. Maybe you'll just get like funnier and more honest.

0:57.4

I'm not casting aspersions on your normal level of funniness or honesty, but I feel like I say,

1:03.2

say what I think. I try to. Okay. In terms of harsh honesty, long-time listener, Colin Stretch, writes in, and he says he has some tough but fair

1:13.8

feedback. He says, the strengths of the podcast is its high signal-to-noise ratio, presents high-quality

1:18.8

information and analysis with the occasional and usually amusing digression. It suffers when the

1:24.4

digression has become the point. June 7th episode hit the 27-minute mark

1:27.5

for turning to any sort of information or analysis

1:30.8

about court business.

1:32.9

It was in a word, painful.

1:34.9

Okay, I don't remember exactly what we digressed upon,

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