Low-code/no-code platforms: The 10% trap and the limits of abstractions

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.7 • 53 Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Low-code and no-code development platforms have been heralded in recent years as a solution to engineering talent gaps and as a trend that will properly democratize technology, allowing even non-coders to build applications from scratch. However, despite the marketing rhetoric, such platforms pose considerable challenges: how do they fit alongside existing development projects? To what extent do they enable or restrict our ability to build the kinds of software we want and need?

In this episode of the Technology Podcast, Neal Ford and Mike Mason are joined by Scott Shaw and Xu Hao to discuss the state of play in the world of low-code and no-code. They explore the different types of platforms that have emerged in the space and ask what organizations need to consider before they invest time, energy and money in integrating them.

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast.
0:07.3	I am one of your regular host, Neil Ford, and I'm joined by another of our regular host today, Mike Mason.
0:13.4	Hi, Neil.
0:14.0	Very happy to be here in person for a change. This is great.
0:16.9	And we are, in fact, in person here in Barcelona as part of the Doppler meeting.
0:21.6	And one of the discussions that perpetually comes up in our Doppler meetings is around low-code, no-code environments.
0:28.5	And so we have two of the Doppler team members here to discuss this topic.
0:33.8	One, you're already familiar with because he's normally one of our hosts, but he's a guest today to talk about this.
0:39.9	Scott Shaw.
0:40.9	Hi, I'm Scott Shaw from Melbourne, Australia, despite my accent.
0:45.6	And the other is from China, our colleague, Zhuhau.
0:48.8	Hi, my name is Yuha. I come from Thur China.
0:52.3	And as I mentioned, we're here to talk about low-code, no-code environments, which is a big topic.
0:58.2	It's a big marketing push by a lot of organizations in the current day.
1:03.8	And we have, as Tholworks traditionally been a little bit not the biggest fans of these kind of environments for reasons
1:15.1	we'll get to in a second but it's probably a good idea to to talk about the spectrum of
1:20.4	what these code these tools look like so what what are some of the examples of no
1:25.3	code low code and what are we talking about here?
1:28.3	So usually for me, I would like to separate the no code from low code because they have clearly different target audience.
1:38.3	When you're talking about no code, you pretty much focus on the people who don't have any technology background.
1:45.0	So they don't want to write any code, but they would like to create a small application.
1:51.0	One of this example I can think of is like a WordPress.
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