I'm Rachel Martin. You probably know how interview podcasts with famous people usually go.

There's a host, a guest, and a light Q&A, but on Wild Card we have ripped up the typical script.

It's a new podcast from NPR where I invite actors, artists, and comedians to play a game

using a special deck of cards to talk about some of life's biggest questions.

Listen to Wild Card wherever you get your podcast, only from NPR.

Hey, it's Meredith.

If you've been listening to Love Letters for a while, you may remember that we did a whole season, season four, called Love at Any Age.

Well, today I want to introduce you to someone who has spent the past few years exploring that theme in a deep thoughtful, beautiful way.

Her name is Laura Stasi and she hosts this great podcast called Dating While Gray.

Laura started dating Well Gray after her 30-year marriage ended. The show is all about what it's like to find Laura Today I want to share a brief recent conversation I had with Laura. We talked about what I learned

for my parents divorce, what it felt like to strike up a relationship during the pandemic,

and the knowing that comes with age.

After that conversation, stick around for an excerpt of a dating well gray episode called

Love is a family affair.

You'll hear from a widower named Herb who offered dating tips to his daughter Jen. I hope you enjoy the

listen and if you want to hear more dating while gray episodes you can find the

show wherever you get your podcasts. So the love letters tagline is where real people tell stories about dating,

relationships and falling in love. If that sounds familiar, it's because Meredith is one of my role models.

I found out about her back in 2018.

I'd just been selected for an incubation program to develop my dating

while gray writing project into a podcast.

And one of our first assignments was to find an aspirational show.

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