Lovett or Leave It Presents: Bravo, America! (with Rachel Lindsay)

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.7 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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In this new series from Lovett or Leave It, Rachel Lindsay joins Jon Lovett to talk about what it’s like to go from being a lawyer, to Bachelor contestant, to the first Black woman to be the Bachelorette. Can you actually find love on these shows? Can you ever trust that it’s real? And what role to do fireball shots play in the process? Plus Rachel reflects on the moment she realized producers were preparing her to lead the franchise, even as they seemed to be worried about racial stereotypes in how she might be perceived by the audience. She talks about the perfect storm that led to Chris Harrison’s fateful interview on Extra which ultimately led to his ouster from the Bachelor world entirely. And Lovett does ask about the fantasy suites, but from a place of concern and confusion, mostly. To hear more episodes of Bravo, America!, subscribe to Lovett or Leave It wherever you get your podcasts, or on YouTube.

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0:00.0	Merry Christmas, happy holidays, happy day off from work, et cetera. It's Aaron and Alyssa here.
0:06.4	The hysteria team is off today, but we've got the perfect winter survival guide, an episode from
0:11.1	Lover to Leave Its New Series, Bravo, America, featuring Rachel Lindsay. While you're dodging
0:15.8	in-laws or sipping eggnog or honestly just sitting on your couch and enjoying the fact that you
0:20.5	don't have
0:20.8	to be anywhere or do anything or talk to anybody, Rachel breaks down her journey from lawyer to
0:26.3	the first black woman to lead the Bachelorette talking all about reality TV, race, and fame.
0:32.2	She reflects on whether love on these shows is ever real, the behind-the-scenes pressures of
0:37.1	production, and even the chaos
0:38.6	that led to ex-batchelor host Chris Harrison's infamous extra interview. It's sharp, funny, and exactly
0:44.4	the kind of escape you need this holiday season. If you love this episode as much as we did,
0:48.7	you can catch all of the episodes of Bravo America on the Love It or Leave It Feed and YouTube.
0:53.6	Make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
0:57.5	This podcast is supported by the Obama Foundation.
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