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Lovett or Leave It

Lovett or Leave It Presents: Bravo, America! (with Dr. Terry Dubrow)

Lovett or Leave It

Crooked Media

Comedy, News

4.725.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

In our premiere episode, Lovett goes under the knife with Dr. Terry Dubrow, an icon of reality TV who has lived his life as a surgeon, husband, and father in front of the cameras on shows like Botched, The Swan and of course the Real Housewives of Orange County. You can see why Terry is considered one of the best dads and spouses in the Bravo Universe. And in this surprisingly open conversation, he also goes off on what he dreads most about filming Real Housewives, the ways housewives manufacture controversy to cling to fame, the risks of being a parent on television, and why he keeps coming back for more. Oh, and Lovett also asks him, “What kind of plastic surgery should I get?” because of course he did. In this special limited series, Lovett sits down with reality icons who helped lead a hostile takeover not just of television, but of our culture. In intimate and revealing conversations, Lovett and his guests explore the ways these shows blur the line between authenticity and performance, the compromises of putting your life on television, the reality-TV-ification of our politics, and the secrets that don't make it on screen. What have reality stars learned about themselves, about television, and about America? And what happens to a society when the only thing worse than being hated is being boring? These are the questions we are trying to answer - either here, or at the reunion.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Were there ever moments where you felt like politics was unavoidable?

0:05.6

I knew you would dive into politics at some point of this.

0:11.1

Hey everybody, it's John Lovett.

0:17.5

Back in January of this year, something really big happened, which is I started

0:21.6

watching The Real Housewives of New York. And if you're like me, you're binging reality TV after

0:26.9

mainlining news all day. I've always loved reality TV, but the more I watched Real Housewives

0:32.1

and a bunch of other shows in the Bravo universe, it became clearer to me how much reality TV changed television, but also

0:39.3

how much it has changed basically everything. It's obviously changed politics. John Favre and I

0:45.6

talked to Sarah McBride about this, and here's what she said. Some of my colleagues are treating me

0:50.0

the way they are treating me for a couple of reasons. One, it's because they want attention, right?

0:54.3

They want to employ the strategies of a Bravo TV show to get attention in a body of 435 people,

1:02.0

and the way to do that is to pick a fight with someone and throw wine in their face.

1:05.4

Look, there are people who love reality TV, and there are people who say reality TV represents

1:10.0

all that went wrong in our

1:11.4

society. But the truth is, I don't care about that debate even a little bit. You think it's trash?

1:16.4

I was just like you. But we've got to take off our white gloves and opera glasses and be for what's

1:21.0

happening. And I genuinely believe that you cannot figure out how to win in politics if you do not

1:26.0

understand the way Bethany won out

1:27.7

over Jill on Real Housewise.

1:30.2

Trump gets this instinctively.

1:32.1

Do your favorite Democrats?

1:33.3

I don't think so.

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