I'm Rebecca Lervoy and this is You Can't make this up is the podcast where we uncover the true stories behind

your favorite Netflix documentaries and films. On today's episode we take a closer look at the

Netflix documentary film Lover Stalker Killer. I don't feel blameless in all

this. A lot of bad things happen to good people all because of a series of

events that I'm at the center of. Today we're talking to director Sam

Hopkinson. Dave Krupa thought his relationship with Carrie Farver was low key,

but Carrie began sending threatening texts and emails.

She even targeted Dave's ex-girlfriend, Liz Gullier.

The stalking persisted for years, and while the trauma drew Dave and Liz closer,

authorities could never track down Carrie for an arrest.

But investigators tracing Carrie's digital footprints

uncovered evidence that upended the case.

The Netflix documentary, Lover Stalker Killer, looks into this bizarre tale of obsession and violence.

Among the women in Dave's life, who could get away with years of online harassment?

And who was willing to turn a romantic rivalry into murder?

This could get to the point where someone gets seriously injured, murdered,

and in the back of my head I'm thinking,

I've got to catch this person. I'm joined now by director Sam Hopkinson.

I'm joined now by director Sam Hopkinson.

Sam, welcome to you can't make this up. Thank you.

So how did you hear about the story of Dave Krupa and Liz Gollier?

I heard about it from Curious Films, the nice Foker Curious Films who I made this film with, who had been researching

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