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Zanab, thank you for joining us.

We were just talking about what misery?

What's on your mind?

Definitely not misery, but how do we stay positive?

You got to find it's such a positive aura.

You want to know what it is.

I know how to access joy. I should put that on a t-shirt yeah no you shouldn't usually write a book because i don't need to know

the information because it's not it's not it's it would be like a two-page book because it really is

just like getting to know yourself and understanding the things that genuinely bring you joy, right?

And just doing that and being able.

So for me, like, I love a good walk.

I know that sounds crazy.

That doesn't sound.

I love a good walk.

And if you, like, I don't like a walk this like heavy, like traffic and stuff.

But like different personalities of houses and stuff like that my mind

just i'm like what are those people like in that house wow i feel like their landscaping says so much

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