Welcome to the Maxwell Leadership Podcast. This is the podcast that adds value to leaders who multiply

valued others. My name is not Mark Cole. My name is Chris Cody and today I'm filling in for Mark.

Listeners you are in for a treat today. Joining us for the second time on the podcast is author

speaker and human performance researcher Marcus Buckingham. Marcus is joining us for our

live to lead event on October 6th, which you can register for at livetolead.com. That's live the

number two lead.com. The link is also in the show notes. If you would like to download the bonus

resource for this episode or watch the episode on YouTube, please visit maxwellpodcast.com slash

love and work. And Marcus, I can't wait to dive into this with you. Thanks again for joining us

on this podcast. It's my absolute pleasure. Chris, really looking forward to it. Yeah,

Marcus, disappointed he can't be here today. John sends his hello as well. You're a great friend

of our organization and we're grateful for you. Here's what I want to start out with. You know,

this love and work, this title, it's an interesting title, right? You think about a lot of people

in organizations and they go, you can't bring that word into what we're doing on a daily basis.

That's a software. I think I've heard you describe that. You know, talk about it at times as

being a software. What was the driving factor behind you writing this book and give us the

kind of the overview of the book itself? Yeah, so the reading line of the book is how to find what

you love, love what you do and do for the rest of your life. And it sounds like a pretty big promise,

but if you, you know, as you said, Chris, I'm a researcher. I spent my entire career trying to

investigate what, why people do what they do in the real world, not in some idealistic theoretical

world, but in the real world, why do they do what they do? And my focus over the years, really

driven by my mentor when I was a gallop, Don Clifton, who was the chairman, he and I made

something called strength find it together. And his focus was always on what, what's working, study

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