Hello, welcome back to the PrestiGTV podcast feed. I'm Joanna Robinson. Joining me today,

it's Katie Rich. Yay! Katie Rich is a longtime pal of mine, my first and best ever editor at Vanity Fair.

Thank you. Thank you for being here. I love recording podcasts with you. And for all the amount of time we've spent talking to each other into microphones, it's so rarely been in person. Like, what a thrill. I feel like twice ever. I mean, yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. But then in like a hotel room after the Oscars. In 2020. Yeah. In February 2020. And then after that, the force was too great. They had to separate us. Yeah, yeah. The whole pandemic happened. So here we go. We're making up for last time. But we are Vanity Fair Refugees and we are here to cover Love Story, the FX series that was once called American Love Story. Now just called Love Story. I think it's a good choice. I don't know. What do you think?

Like to distance it from the American blank blank story franchise. It can be its own thing a little bit, right? It's interesting to me. We're going to talk about the first three episodes because they dropped as like a little mini binge drop. So we're not going to dive deep into anything. We're not going to delve into details. We're just taking like a big picture look at this show as I guess a kind of

Valentine's Day special, the Presbytee TV podcast. We're here to talk about love story. So if you haven't

watched the first three episodes, go watch them and then and then watch or listen to this podcast.

And then also I will just say blanket spoiler warning for history. The 90s. It happened. Yeah. We might talk about it. So that is the plan today on the prestige feed. About this. First, I'm going to ask you this question. Before we get into like the show in general, what is your memory? You're just like a couple years younger than I am, but we were like alive and awake and active in the 90s. Yeah. What is your memory of JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bassett? Like what did you remember? I remember when they're playing crash. I was at the beach with my friends. Like that was the news. It was the same, like maybe the same week as Woodstock 99. If you can picture that, of like those being the headlines coming out. Right. And like just at the age where he's starting, you know, like paying attention to the news in that way. And I'm sure I knew who he was because that news was relevant. But I bet I knew nothing about Carolyn. Like I was not like a fashiony kind of teenager. I wouldn't have been reading like the New York Post, obviously. I wasn't anywhere in the New York area. So I don't think I had any awareness of

how that celebrity worked. I think that probably came around the time of working at Annie Fair,

editing fashion stories, like knowing her wedding dress is iconic, that kind of thing. And like

absorbing more Kennedy lore as I got older. But yeah, that period of New York early 90s,

I know mostly through like other people's stories, not this one.

My only memory of them is the wedding, like the wedding photos, her iconic dress. They got married

in like a barn somewhere, which will be covered. A church. An old African American church,

like, if they did that now, we would be like, guys, what's happening? Yeah. Why are we here? And so that, the, like, the photo of them leaving that church. Yes. That looks like a barn, but it's a church. Yes. It's like an old weather and seaside church. Yeah, weather, weather, weather church. Her dress, this very, like, we got married moment on the cover of People magazine and then the crash. And that's

really all. It's like the wedding and the crash. Absolutely. Yeah. And so for people who are

older than we are or more dialed in than we were at the time, this might be more relevant.

But I was thinking about this, you know, this is a Ryan Murphy joint, but what I have been given to understand

is that it's closer to the People v. O.J., American Crime Story in that it's Ryan Murphy with

Nina Jacobson and Brad Simpson, his like longtime partners, but this show is created by Connor

Hines. It's not really like a Ryan Murphy show. It's got his name on it, but it's not, he's not as involved as he has been in some of his other projects. Even with like the swans, like is this not a similar situation where it's like got a creator and it's got the Ryan Murphy umbrella, but the creator can do their own thing? I think it's like that, but I just, I think it's different from an American horror story or the beauty or these other things. So when you say Ryan Murphy, I feel like the Ryan Murphy brand means something specifically in a lot, like since OJ happened to now, the, there's been, I don't know, a dozen Ryan Murphy shows. I mean, OJ was 10 years ago.. Yeah, I remember we covered the heck out of that show together.

So I just, I remember, we definitely did.

But I just remember when I've been pitching this show to people, love story, get into it.

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