Love or Money

Lost Hills: Dark Canyon

Western Sound and Pushkin Industries

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.2 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

After Fred’s arrest, detectives start looking into his finances. How does a civilian employee of the Navy afford a beachfront home, on a gated road in Malibu, and a brand-new $150K sailboat? Also, they learn that the Roehlers owned large insurance policies. Could that be the motive the cops are looking for?

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:23.3	A week after his arrest in early April 1981, Fred took a polygraph exam.
0:29.3	Surprisingly, it wasn't ordered by law enforcement.
0:32.4	It was ordered by Fred's defense team.
0:35.4	Polygraph tests are notoriously unreliable, but Fred's lawyers were hoping that a successful
0:40.9	polygraph would help prove his innocence.
0:44.7	There was a lot to go over.
0:47.0	Fred had entered a plea of not guilty, but the second autopsy showed trauma to Verna and
0:51.9	Doug.
0:52.9	Bruises and marks that seemed to bolster the cops working theory.
0:57.5	Fred had killed them, violently.
1:01.7	The polygraph was meant to bring clarity.
1:04.5	It was a pass-failed test.
1:07.2	Fred was either a liar or he wasn't.
1:11.1	If you didn't have any connection with your death, other than accidental, then believe
1:18.6	me, you'll pass a polygraph.
1:20.4	This is the polygraph examiner, explaining the process to Fred.
1:23.8	I have no idea if you're going to be lying to me for a time in the truth.
1:28.5	But after we get into this, what the hell are you going to find out I can tell from your
1:31.6	lies?
1:32.6	If your response was in that or you tell them I didn't want it or anything like that, then
1:36.8	of course, if you're involved, I'll wait until you fail the polygraph.
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