I'm Jensen Franklin and you're listening to Family Talk, a radio ministry of the James Dobson

Family Talk.

I'm Roger Marsh, and today we're going to bring you the conclusion of a conversation that Dr Dobson had back in 2018 with pastor and author Jensen Franklin when Jensen paid us a visit in our studio here in Colorado Springs.

Pastor Jensen Franklin is the senior pastor of Free Chapel in Gainesville, Georgia.

He has a weekly program called Kingdom Connection that airs on numerous Christian television networks all over the world.

He is also a New York Times best-selling author.

And yesterday on the program, Dr Dobson and Pastor Franklin recounted how they first met.

They were both invited, along with other evangelical leaders to take a trip to the

Holy Land, Israel.

On their flight they sat next to each other and began to talk.

They spoke for several hours on that flight and that began their friendship.

They also served together on the White House Faith Advisory Board from 2016 until 2020.

On today's program, Pastor Franklin and Dr Dobson are going to continue to talk about Jensen's book,

Love Like You've Never Been Hurt.

I want to share with you the summation from the publisher because I think it's important for you to understand the heartbeat

behind this book. The human heart was created with a great capacity to love, but

along with that comes a great capacity to feel pain as well. There is no denying that those who love us, who

are closest to us, can also wound us the most profoundly. That kind of pain can be difficult,

if not impossible, to overcome overcome and it can feel even more

impossible to continue loving in the face of it yet that is exactly what we are

called to do. Sharing from his own story of personal pain, pastor and author Jensen Franklin shows

us how to find the strength, courage, and motivation to set aside the hurt, to see others

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