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Recording everybody, hello, hello.

What up, what up?

Welcome to two black girls, one rose.

Where together, we'll uncover what we can learn about modern dating, love and relationships from popular television.

I'm Natasha and I'm Justine and I think I've come around to Ollie.

Oh, have you? I think so. Okay, okay. Can I start my thoughts? Yes. So even

before he revealed the ADHD, know diagnosis I do kind of think I don't know if this

unpopular opinion I'm curious what people were gonna think I do think the

Catherine thing became a thing, because she felt compelled to have this conversation with him,

and they had to have this whole sit-down thing,

but he was kind of mind his own business, not even really thinking about Catherine.

And then it became a thing. own business not even really thinking about Catherine.

And then it also became more of a thing

because Demi felt like triggered by watching them

and she then starts to shut down. We then learn her communications in that well and it's not everyone thinking he's to blame for Demi not being herself and

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