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We hope you will join us and our guests each week for honest conversations about the good,

bad, and ugly of raising kids.

There's no perfect parents, just a perfect God who stands ready to pardon our mess

and guide us on the most challenging yet rewarding journey, parenting.

Welcome back to Pardon the Mess, and I'm so glad you are listening to Part 2 of Bob

Gough.

I'm hoping that you listen to Part 1, and if you have not, you're going to want to.

But Bob Gough has been so fabulous to sit and visit with us and talk parenting.

And so we are going to talk more today in part two of our podcast with Bob Goff.

Here it goes.

Okay.

So everybody always, I'm quoting you for a second.

Instead of telling people what they want, we need to tell them who they are.

This works every time. And this is the part I like right here. I like it all. But we'll become in our

lives, whoever the people we love the most say we are. And so our kids, you know, we have huge

influence. I mean, we love them. They love us, maybe not the most, but pretty close.

How does that apply to our parenting?

Yeah, I'll give you an example.

I was in college at a busman daylight savings times where you sent your clubs back.

But I got to this Bible study on time.

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