Lovable's Anton Osika on Revolutionizing Software Development and OpenAI Drops Deep Research | E2080
This Week in Startups
Jason Calacanis
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🗓️ 4 February 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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OpenAI dropped Deep Research—hilariously, the exact same name as Google’s existing tool. Jason and Alex dive into the AI arms race, break down Lovable.dev’s insane growth to $10M ARR in weeks, and test whether AI can really replace software engineers. Plus, they analyze Trump’s latest tariff chaos and what it means for startups, global trade, and the economy.
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(0:00) Jason and Alex kick off the show.
(1:09) Jason’s talk and case study at Stanford (2:38) Managing the chaotic news cycle (5:22) NBA trade insights: Luka Doncic and Anthony Davis (7:15) Lovable startup's rapid growth (9:44) Lemon.io. Get 15% off your first 4 weeks of developer time at https://Lemon.io/twist (11:02) Lovable's AI demo and European startup landscape (15:20) Lovable's target market and pricing strategy (19:48) PrizePicks. Run your game. Download the app today and use code TWIST to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup! Go to: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/TWIST
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| 0:00.0 | All right, so a couple weeks ago, we had the guy behind Deep Research from Google on the show. |
| 0:05.4 | Great interview, great time. |
| 0:07.0 | You were a big fan of the product. |
| 0:08.5 | Sure. |
| 0:09.0 | I'm a big fan of the product. |
| 0:10.3 | Then over the weekend, Open AI, everyone's favorite closed AI shop, dropped their own product. |
| 0:16.7 | And Jason, did you know what they also called it Deep Research? |
| 0:19.3 | It's fascinating that they, |
| 0:22.4 | I'm shocked that in any way |
| 0:23.7 | we would have |
| 0:25.0 | Open AI do something |
| 0:27.3 | like steal |
| 0:27.8 | somebody else's IP. |
| 0:30.6 | I mean, it's kind of laughable, |
| 0:32.6 | right? |
| 0:32.8 | They just called it the same exact thing. |
| 0:34.9 | Okay, sure. |
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