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Woman's Hour

Louise Thompson, For Women Scotland, Decluttering, Musician Emma-Jean Thackray, Exclusion zones

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

After suffering complications during the birth of her son, Leo, in 2021, former Made in Chelsea star Louise Thompson developed PTSD. She posted about this to her followers on social media and has now written about it in her new book, Lucky. She told Clare McDonnell about her experience and why she is trying to break the taboo surrounding birth trauma.

People who have committed murder, manslaughter or stalking offences should be forced to live in restricted areas after being released from prison on licence, according to a group of campaigners. BBC journalist Gemma Dunstan and law-change campaigners Rhianon Bragg and Dianna Parkes join Anita Rani to discuss.

The Prime Minister Keir Starmer has welcomed the UK Supreme Court decision on the legal definition of a woman. His office has confirmed that he no longer believes trans women are women. There have been protests against the decision, with critics saying it is incredibly worrying for the trans community. The ruling followed a long-running legal battle between the Scottish Government and the campaign group For Women Scotland. Susan Smith, one of the directors, spoke to Clare and gave her reflections on the outcome, a week on.

TV presenter, writer and self-declared 'homes therapist' Michelle Ogundehin joined Nuala to talk about decluttering and the connection between our home and our wellbeing, her personal wardrobe strategy and her love of curated things that tell our story.

Emma-Jean Thackray is a multi-instrumentalist, singer, producer, bandleader and DJ. Her sound has incorporated the widest range of music, from jazz and funk to Detroit house and techno, northern Bassline and catchy rock and pop music. She joined Anita to discuss her new album Weirdo and the inspiration behind it.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Dianne McGregor

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast, but this is about something else you might enjoy.

0:05.4

My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

0:10.8

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

0:17.5

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

0:22.4

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all put

0:28.3

together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

0:35.0

check out BBC Sounds.

0:38.3

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:41.3

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:46.3

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

0:53.3

Hello and welcome to a selection of standout moments from the week.

0:57.8

Coming up today, decluttering our stuff and the connection it has to our well-being.

1:02.6

TV presenter and Holmes therapist Michelle Agundahin gives us some tips.

1:07.2

Last week, the UK Supreme Court ruled that a woman is defined by biological sex under

1:12.2

equality's law, following a long-running legal battle between the Scottish Government and the

1:16.9

campaign group for Women Scotland.

1:19.5

We hear reflections from Susan Smith, one of the women behind the group.

1:24.3

Louise Thompson, the former Maid in Chelsea Star on the traumatic birth of her son Leo and why she's speaking up about it, and music from multi-instrumentalist, singer, producer, bandleader and DJ Emma Jean Thackeray.

1:37.5

But first, currently, when the perpetrators of murder, manslaughter or stalking are released, their victims and the victim's family

1:45.5

can be placed under something called an exclusion zone. This is supposed to prevent offenders

1:50.8

from approaching those impacted by their actions. However, some women with direct experience of

1:56.8

exclusion zones are now calling for this system to be changed. They believe that the restrictions

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