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The Great Women Artists

Lou Stoppard on Shirley Baker

The Great Women Artists

Katy Hessel

Arts

4.8944 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2020

⏱️ 41 minutes

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In episode 38 of The Great Women Artists Podcast, Katy Hessel interviews the brilliant London-based writer LOU STOPPARD on the ICONIC and TRAILBLAZING street photographer SHIRLEY BAKER (1932–2014) !!!! [This episode is brought to you by Alighieri jewellery: www.alighieri.co.uk | use the code TGWA at checkout for 10% off!] And WOW! This was such an insight into one of the greatest street photographers of the 20th century. A woman who captured 6+ decades of change in post-War Britain: from Manchester in the ‘50s and ‘60s, to the heights of Thatcherism in the ‘80s, and New Labour in the 2000s. A self-proclaimed “idler with a camera”, the fearlessly socially and politically engaged Shirley saw beauty, character and absurdity in the everyday. Documenting those often overlooked or on the outside – much like the artist herself who wasn’t recognised with a major solo exhibition until right at the end of her life at The Photographer’s Gallery – Shirley captured unnamed people who shaped our cultures, as opposed to the places themselves. Highly sensitive to change and the ageing process, Shirley Baker was skilled at observing modernity, whether it be through the rise of industrialism and technology, altering eating habits, or the abandonment of terraced houses in the North between 1955–1973 (after the Housing Repairs and Rents Act), which were abruptly replaced by large looming tower blocks. Always on the frontline of change, she captured moments that felt still amongst a fast-paced world: "I did know that fundamental changes were taking place and nobody seemed to be interested in recording the face of the people or any- thing in their lives. My interest grew into a compulsion even though the notion of someone wandering the unpicturesque streets of Manchester and Salford with a camera seemed quite crazy to most people then." But she also captured the imperfections in people – people who tried to live up to society’s expectations with whom she caught moments when their mask slipped. Wow. So much to unpick here!!! I am in awe of Shirley and Lou's brilliant take on her. An INCREDIBLY aware photographer with a fascinating story which we discuss in depth! ENJOY!!! Further reading: Lou’s fantastic book! https://mackbooks.co.uk/products/shirley-baker-br-lou-stoppard-ed https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/shirley-bakers-half-century-of-street-photography This episode is sponsored by Alighieri https://alighieri.co.uk/ @alighieri_jewellery Use the code: TGWA for 10% off! Follow us: Katy Hessel: @thegreatwomenartists / @katy.hessel Sound editing by Amber Miller (@amber_m.iller) Artwork by @thisisaliceskinner Music by Ben Wetherfield https://www.thegreatwomenartists.com/

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Great Woman Artist's podcast. I hope you are all doing well.

0:07.0

I am really delighted that this episode is sponsored by one of my favourite jewellery brands, Alighieri.

0:14.0

During this difficult time, Alighieri will be donating 10% of all online sales to refuge, the country's largest provider of support to women

0:24.0

and children escaping domestic violence. Alligieri is also offering 10% off for great women

0:30.8

artist listeners with the code TGWA at checkout. See www.a.w.w.org for more.

0:40.6

Here are a few words from their founder,

0:42.7

Rosh Matani, and I hope you enjoy this episode.

0:47.3

In the mezzo del camine of Our Vita,

0:50.2

me re-trovai for a selva oscura,

0:53.1

that the right via via was Marita.

0:56.3

In the middle of the journey of our life,

0:58.4

I came to myself within a dark word

1:00.4

where the right way was obscured.

1:03.1

When Dante wakes up in the Silva Oskura,

1:06.1

he's completely lost,

1:07.8

he has no idea where he's going,

1:09.5

and he's terrified.

1:14.6

One of our most popular pieces is the Leone medallion, inspired by this first canto, when Dante is confronted by the beast of the lion.

1:20.6

The lion comes towards him, so terrifying that even the air around him is trembling with fear.

1:30.3

Dante wants to give up and it's at that point when his guide Virgil appears and gives

1:37.3

him the strength and says, Dante, what are you doing? You can do this. You've got to be braver.

1:42.3

And I made the Leone medallion as a reminder to myself

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