The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do exceptional work for the glory of God and the

good of others.

Every single week, I'm bringing you a conversation

with a Christ follower who is pursuing world-class

mastery of their vocation.

We're talking about their path to mastery, we're talking

about their daily habits and routines, and we're talking about how their faith

influences their work. Today I am super excited to bring to you a conversation I recently had

with Lou Holtz. Of course Lou needs no introduction he's the legendary college football coach best known for leading Notre Dame to their national championship in 1988.

He's the first coach in NCAA history to lead six different programs to bowl games.

That's astounding.

And it goes without saying he's a member of the College Football Hall of Fame,

in recent years best known as a broadcaster and commentator on television.

He's one of the most beloved personalities in all of sports.

He's also well known as being a devout follower of Jesus Christ.

I was so honored that Lou decided to come out of the program, so

excited to have him. So Lou and I recently sat down in the middle of the coronavirus crisis.

We talked about the keys to mastering the art of coaching. We talked about the simple W-I-N-W-I-N-W-N-W-N-W-W-N-W-W-N-W-W-N-W-W-W-N-W-W-W-I-T-Tisying that Lou uses for budgeting in the key to do day to day.

That was probably my favorite part of the entire conversation.

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