Standard issue for all women.

Hello, Hannah here and welcome to this week's interview coming at you on a Thursday for a bit of variety.

Still left this week, by the way, is Flicking, in which Yosra will be joining Mickey and I to chat about Sing Sing.

It made them both cry. Did it make me cry? You can find out tomorrow.

And next week, we've got loads of great stuff coming up, including an interview with the

absolutely smashing Jess Foster Q, as well as Mickey talking to Joe Hamilton about the

post office scandal, which I'm guessing is going to be great stuff. But sticking with today, in which our pal and sometime guest interviewer, Hazel Davis,

is talking to Lou Butcher, more famous now as The Topless Runner,

to chat about running marathons topless after hermesectomies,

as well as health anxiety, body confidence, the politics of being

topless and a whole lot more. As you'll hear, Lou has written a memoir called Going Topless,

which is available to buy it now. Now, if you're listening on the free feed, this interview is

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existing supporters, and thanks to Hazel and

Lou for such a great chat. My name's Hazel Davis and I'm here with Louise Butcher who is

famously topless. Louise, tell me how long you've been topless and when that all started.

Yeah, I've been running topless now for two years, and it started because I was diagnosed with lobular breast cancer

back in April 2022.

I had suffered with health anxiety for years and years,

struggled with thinking there was something wrong with me

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