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Lots More With Claudia Sahm on What the Sahm Rule Is Saying Now

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🗓️ 16 August 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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The Federal Reserve appears to be ready to pivot into rate cutting mode. Inflation has come down significantly, and the unemployment rate has been trending upward for most of the year. In fact, in the most recent Non-Farm Payrolls report, the headline unemployment rate of 4.3% triggered the so-called "Sahm Rule," which has been a historically reliable signal that the US is already in a recession. So are we in a recession? Could the rule be wrong this time due the unique features of this economic cycle? How should the Fed weigh the risks that we see in front of us? On this episode of Lots More, we speak with the rule's creator, Clauda Sahm, Bloomberg Opinion contributor and the chief economist at New Century Advisors. She explains why the signal this time could be misleading, but also why — regardless of whether we're in a recession or not — the Fed must be on guard for a weakening labor market.

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Hi Claudia. Hello, how are you doing?

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Good, how are you doing?

0:59.0

Pretty good.

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It's a little calmer this week, so no.

1:02.0

Oh yeah, last week, last week was a little nuts.

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Last week was nuts.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, so good to catch breath.

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Sometimes I wonder if you have a Google Alert set up for Somme and if it's just like going off constantly in the past 10 days.

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