I remember running into you outside the Miley Cyrus show, and it was maybe five days after the Paris attacks.

And I remember you being really emotional about it.

Do you remember how it felt to be at that show so soon in the wake after the Paris attacks?

Yeah.

I think that that was in particular a show where it was just the vibe was over-the-top fun and celebratory and just crazy everything. But then looming is like,

well, any second someone could walk in and...

That's Dana Meyerson. She's a publicist and artist manager, talking about how after

Las Vegas, Paris, Orlando,

being at a show felt very different.

It's a fear that a lot of people live with daily, everywhere.

It was like, okay, if someone comes in, like, where would I hide and where would I go?

And how do I help people?

All of a sudden, there's a secondary vibe with the space, which is it could be used as a place of attack.

It was sort of the beginning of a shift in the way that I feel now,

anytime I go into a public space,

now I feel terrified to go to a festival

because that seems like such an obvious target

when I went to Laalapalooza last year, post-Vagas,

and seeing people with binoculars looking up into the hotel rooms,

looking for a shooter. So it's this sort of

like true nightmare that now exist in real life. And like Dana, when I'm at shows, I wonder,

am I safe? Is everyone here safe? But have I ever acted on that concern?

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