Hey everybody, Greg Laurie here. You're listening to the Greg Laurie podcast. And my objective is to

deliver, hopefully, compelling practical insights and faith, culture, and current events from a Biblical

perspective to find out more about our ministry. Just go to our website harvest.org. So thanks

are joining me for this podcast. But as we continue this fascinating discussion with Pastor Greg,

I ask him about the romance that was developing as his early calling to ministry was developing.

Well, you know, Kathy and I were developing in our love for one another. And but I have to say that

we we had our disagreements as well. In fact, we had big arguments and so much so that we broke up

three times. And I'm saying break up. I never want to see you again. I don't ever want to see

your face again. This relationship is over with. I don't need you in my life. I'm going to find

somebody else I can get along with. And then we would get back together break up again, get back

together. We broke up and he went on tour with a music group called Children of the Day. And he

was gone for about three months. And during that absence, right before he left, he pretty much said

this is it, you know, it's over between us. And I think just facing the reality of life without

Greg at first didn't bother me. But as time went on, I really began to miss him. And as I would see

other guys or date other guys, I felt like, nobody's really quite like he is. There's nobody that

makes me laugh like he does. There's nobody that is as interesting or as focused about what they're

doing. And they always seem to pale in comparison. So I really began to wonder if maybe we weren't

supposed to be together after all. And finally, after the third break up, we just realized that we

didn't want to be away from each other. We wanted to be together. And so I like to say that we got

that out of our system before we got married, you know, because thankfully we've been married

now 34 years. And the word divorce was never a part of our vocabulary. And having come from the

background that I came from and being so up close and personal with the effects of divorce, the

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