"lost anchorage" EP 05 with Claude "Muff" Butler
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🗓️ 10 September 2019
⏱️ 66 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Lost Anchorage, |
| 0:06.0 | Lost Anchorage, where crude investigates the mechanisms of crime and violence in Anchorage, |
| 0:10.7 | Alaska. |
| 0:12.1 | My name is Cody Liska, and I'll be your host. |
| 0:15.0 | Through research and interviews with professionals, law enforcement, and those affected by crime, |
| 0:20.0 | I hope to build a better understanding of whether or not Anchorage is in fact becoming more dangerous. |
| 0:31.0 | By the end of this series, I hope to create a portrait of crime in our city for better or for worse. You're going to be here. Good morning. My name is Claude my father, ex-drug dealer, and now what I do in my life I teach kids how to play basketball and focus on school. |
| 1:10.0 | So Muff, I wanted to talk to you today because I think you're an ideal example of what it looks like to turn your life around after being involved in crime for so long. |
| 1:20.5 | But before we talk about where you are now, let's start with how you got into selling drugs. |
| 1:27.0 | I was living in Anchorage when I went to school. I've been to college, went overseas to play, and I just decided to take |
| 1:37.1 | the easy ride out. This was back in 87 and I just made that decision which was the worst decision of my life was to sell drugs you know and that's how I got into it. |
| 1:52.0 | What was... you know and that's how I got into it. |
| 1:57.8 | What was your first drug deal like? |
| 2:05.3 | Well actually I don't remember the first sale that I actually made but what I do remember is when I first got into the game we had a couple of workers and I ran a crack house. |
| 2:11.4 | So what that is people come to the house, the purchase, and then they would leave. |
| 2:18.0 | But I didn't actually make the transactions. |
| 2:20.7 | I had workers that would make the transaction and then give me the money. |
| 2:25.0 | You know, so otherwise say you, you would have the drugs, answer the door, give them what they want, and then give me the money, because actually I was working for somebody else. |
| 2:37.0 | You understand what I'm saying? |
| 2:39.0 | I think so, yeah. |
| 2:40.0 | You know? |
| 2:41.0 | And that's how you run a crack house. |
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