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"lost anchorage" EP 05 with Claude "Muff" Butler

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Society & Culture

4.9152 Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2019

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of "lost anchorage," we look at the Anchorage drug trade through the perspective of an ex drug dealer. Claude "Muff" Butler ran a crackhouse in late '80s. After he gave that up, he made deliveries all over town. Between dealing drugs, prison and tragedy, Muff's past was a turbulent one. Today, he is an ideal example of someone who turned their life around. He now teaches kids how to play basketball and emphasizes the importance of school.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lost Anchorage,

0:06.0

Lost Anchorage, where crude investigates the mechanisms of crime and violence in Anchorage,

0:10.7

Alaska.

0:12.1

My name is Cody Liska, and I'll be your host.

0:15.0

Through research and interviews with professionals, law enforcement, and those affected by crime,

0:20.0

I hope to build a better understanding of whether or not Anchorage is in fact becoming more dangerous.

0:31.0

By the end of this series, I hope to create a portrait of crime in our city for better or for worse. You're going to be here. Good morning. My name is Claude my father, ex-drug dealer, and now what I do in my life I teach kids how to play basketball and focus on school.

1:10.0

So Muff, I wanted to talk to you today because I think you're an ideal example of what it looks like to turn your life around after being involved in crime for so long.

1:20.5

But before we talk about where you are now, let's start with how you got into selling drugs.

1:27.0

I was living in Anchorage when I went to school. I've been to college, went overseas to play, and I just decided to take

1:37.1

the easy ride out. This was back in 87 and I just made that decision which was the worst decision of my life was to sell drugs you know and that's how I got into it.

1:52.0

What was... you know and that's how I got into it.

1:57.8

What was your first drug deal like?

2:05.3

Well actually I don't remember the first sale that I actually made but what I do remember is when I first got into the game we had a couple of workers and I ran a crack house.

2:11.4

So what that is people come to the house, the purchase, and then they would leave.

2:18.0

But I didn't actually make the transactions.

2:20.7

I had workers that would make the transaction and then give me the money.

2:25.0

You know, so otherwise say you, you would have the drugs, answer the door, give them what they want, and then give me the money, because actually I was working for somebody else.

2:37.0

You understand what I'm saying?

2:39.0

I think so, yeah.

2:40.0

You know?

2:41.0

And that's how you run a crack house.

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