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Stay Tuned with Preet

Losing Our Religion (with Ryan Burge)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

How does religion influence our politics? Preet speaks with Ryan Burge, a pastor, data analyst, and political science professor at Eastern Illinois University focused on religion and politics. They discuss the rapid decrease in American religious affiliation, how religious groups are becoming more polarized, and what it all means for our elections.  Plus, Preet reacts to testimony by former Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows who is seeking to transfer the Georgia state prosecution to federal court.  Don’t miss the Insider bonus, where Preet and Burge discuss the relationship between religion and sports, and how Burge caught a student using ChatGPT in his classroom. To listen, become a member of CAFE Insider for $1 for the first month. Head to cafe.com/insider.  For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/losing-our-religion-with-ryan-burge/  Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on Threads, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

0:06.0

I'm Pete Barara.

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And what I found was super interesting, which is the idea that people who believe the Bible

0:12.0

is literally true are less tolerant.

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Because it makes sense, right?

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If I'm right, then you're wrong.

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And why should I tolerate wrongness and sinfulness?

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That makes sense.

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But you know who are the most tolerant people?

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The people who went to church every week.

0:23.0

Because they built those bridges to people who were different than them.

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That's Ryan Burge.

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He's a leading data analyst on religion and politics, and a political science professor

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at Eastern Illinois University.

0:38.0

He's also been a pastor in the American Baptist Church for over 20 years.

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Burge looks for trends at the intersection of religion and politics,

0:46.0

and has found some pretty notable takeaways.

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Americans are less religious today than ever.

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Over the last decade, the portion of people who identify with the religion

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has dropped by 11 points.

0:58.0

And that has wide implications for society.

1:00.0

So what's going on?

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