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Hey, everybody, welcome to Drop Dead Serious.

If you are new here, hello, I am Ashley Banfield.

And in this episode, we're talking about Lori Vallow Daybell.

You may know her name.

You may know it well.

You may know her horrific story.

But now there is a brand new chapter that is unfolding. And trust me,

you are going to want to hear this. And I want to take a step back, too, because to really

understand where Lori is today, you need to understand where all of this started. Lori Vallow

is often referred to as the Idaho Doomsday Mom, who once seemed like

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