Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SDS Nation?

And welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you

the very best guests in all of true crime I say it every time because it's not just a

tagline it's a reality and today's panel just as good if not better than the rest of

them we're to dip into Chad

Daybell but before we get there we've got Lori Valo's brother Adam Cox

he probably doesn't love that that type of introduction all the time because he's his own man he's a pickleball

champion he's a former disc jockey the guy's got his own life so Adam Cox is his own person and today is his birthday

so happy birthday Adam I will not ask you the number but how does it feel to

get a year older?

I used to love birthdays and now I just, I kind of go the opposite way.

Try to keep it low, keep everything on the deal, let's not mention mention birthday let's keep it just you know once you

hit a certain age you just don't want to keep you just don't want to keep counting

I'm going to take hate for this but I mean this with all love and respect and admiration.

Does anyone ever tell you you're a much better looking version of Norm McDonald?

The...

Norm McDonald, no, but I interviewed Norm McDonald on the radio in Phoenix and he's one of my friends favorite

comedians he is hilarious no one's ever said we looked alike but I did spend some time with

him so that's funny you say that yeah sadly he passed not

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