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can become part of the show by backing us on Patreon. Hello everyone you are listening to We Saw the Devil. This is Robin and I know it's been a while guys. It's been about a week and a half since the last episode but we are back. I last promised to return with day three of the Barry Morfeu

hearing and I'm going to be honest with you guys. Not a lot happened on that day three.

It seems like they brought everything out on days one and two and then day three not a lot transpired

It was more rehashing old evidence that they had previously presented I started researching for other episodes and then you know what this past weekend was my birthday and if you follow the show follow me know anything about me at all you know that this year has been kind of rough so I decided to practice a little self-care and relax and do stuff that I enjoy.

Not that I don't enjoy the podcast I do, but I decided to do a little relaxing.

And thank you to everyone who reached out,

especially our Patreon patrons who reached out with birthday wishes and well wishes,

it meant the absolute world to me. I want to think each and every person who did so.

It was so incredibly sweet of you guys, basically during such a rough time.

But I am back and this actually wasn't the intended episode that I meant to air. I actually recorded another

episode that was slated to go out on Tuesday with news updates and then somehow this double hearing slipped my mind and so as I was about to push that episode up, I realized,

oh wow, there is another, there's a Lori Valo update coming finally.

So for this episode, we have a Lori Valo update coming finally. So for this episode we have a Lori Valo update for you.

If you've noticed the Lori Valo updates are becoming a little more sporadic

because not as much as happening in the case so we're spacing them out letting some things

trickle in and then doing other cases in the meantime and then a grand update as is

necessary. So there'll be this episode today and then at the end of the week there will be that original

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