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Listener discretion is Robin.

And this is Jackie. As many of you have written in left comments on YouTube and social media channels, everyone wants

us to cover the Lori Valo case from the very beginning.

Multiple people ask for a primer on the case, and I'm not going to lie guys. Last week I sat down to write a

single episode primer on Lori Valo case because the case is so convoluted and

insane. It's not something that you can just easily tell a

coworker in less than five minutes. No and I know a lot of you like to introduce

your friends to this case and you're like oh my God you got to hear this crazy thing.

Right. You know maybe in my narcissism, I was like, I can do it.

I can make an episode, a single episode that will cover, basically get you in the know.

I witnessed her eyes start to bleed. They did. And fingers started to go numb. It was weird. And she, I think she may have had a mini stroke.

Yeah, it's possible. You okay, Robin? I have recovered because it's not possible guys so someone on our YouTube

forgive me I forgot your names like that's gonna take more than one episode well you

know what kind soul you are correct I believe someone on Instagram warned you too

yeah people are warning you you can't do that. The Lori Valo case in particular is just really really

close to our hearts because we were technically like the first

podcast to do hardcore coverage of it. I mean we covered every single happening in the case.

This is very true. I remember when you first came upon this case.

Yes I remember we were actually recording an episode on Elisa Lamb and all of a sudden I was looking

through my notes and an article popped up saying missing children and it was the picture of

JJ and Tiley and I clicked on it and immediately just went down the rabbit hole.

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