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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Lords have mercy! How to fix the upper chamber

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The House of Lords is constantly embattled – but what value does it have and what really goes on there? Various governments have wanted to reform the chamber – with limited success. Can it be done? Marie Le Conte speaks to Politico’s senior UK correspondent Esther Webber about the good, the bad and the… unusual.  “It was where a deeper scrutiny happened, which you wouldn’t always see in the Commons.”  “A big barrier to reform is it has to go through the Lords.”  “I feel slightly weary of the idea of a second elected chamber. It means peers would be subject to the same kind of electoral tug of war of MPs.”  www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Presented by Ros Taylor. Producers: Jet Gerbertson and Alex Rees. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Alex Rees. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:12.0

Labour leader Kirstama has announced that the party wants to abolish the House of Lords.

1:17.0

In an interview with the observer, he said that the public's faith in the political system had been undermined by successive Tory leaders handing

1:24.2

peerages to lackeys and donors.

1:26.5

Instead, a Labour government would strip politicians of the power to make appointments to the

1:30.5

Lords, then eventually create a new elected chamber.

1:34.0

As if on cue, Ritchie Sunak has since faced calls to withdraw the whip from Baroness

1:37.3

Mone following revelations that she appeared to have gained millions from the profits of a PPE company. Here with me today to discuss the Never Not Embattled

1:44.8

Second Chamber is journalist Esther Weber. Hello Esther.

1:48.0

Hi Mary. So If has became aware of you what feels like a hundred years ago when you were at the

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