All right, Zee did another episode on urbanization.

This time it's on lords and landlords.

And like last time, we ended up talking for about an hour and a half.

And it occurred to me that giving you a little intro on what you're going to be hearing

is probably a good idea because these episodes

aren't at all like the main show. What you're about to hear is us. Like, this is just who we are

and how we talk. It's basically hanging out with us at the pub. And what you might not realize

listening to the main show is that Z is half my brain.

I do a lot of research for the show, but time is finite and my brain is even more so.

So while I'm juggling the billions of Williams, Z is tackling cultural matters and sociological

and economic matters. And for good reason, while I'm a former lawyer and can spin a pretty good narrative, Zia's a doctor of sociology from the London School of Economics.

And so she is well suited for exactly this kind of work.

And so I wanted to give you about a 15-minute sample of that larger, about 90-minute

conversation on Lords and Lordship. So here we go. All right, we're back with part two of

SimCity medieval style. I mean, honestly, that actually kind of works, because today we're

going to be talking about how lordship does work through

the urban environment. At least that's going to be the first part of this talk. Townspeople,

as we spoke about in that first episode, were way more powerful than I think the records give

credit for, but also more powerful than the rural counterparts in a lot of ways.

It would be hard not to be.

Yeah.

That said, urbanization was a big part of medieval lordship, and that process was being

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