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Music My cast away this week is the former Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, Lord Wolf.

Throughout his career, he's been at the forefront of shaping our justice system. Following the strange ways riots, he issued far-reaching reports on

penal reform. His part in authorising the release of James Bulger's killers attracted huge attention,

and as master of the roles, he made an historic judgment allowing Diane Blood to use her dead husband's sperm to have a child.

But his appetite to see justice done was sharpened a good deal further back than the highest courts in the land.

As a wartime schoolboy prone to getting more than his fair share of canings,

he developed an early antipathy towards any perceived unfairness and was more

than willing to make a stand against his stern schoolmasters, however unpopular it made him.

So Harry Wolf, offend a rehabilitation, the freedom of the citizen, prisoners' rights, the causes

that you've fought for have often brought you into conflict with politicians and press alike. You don't appear to be someone too concerned about winning any

popularity contest. No, but concerned in persuading people that the things I say are things that

should be listened to and perhaps influence them to do things rather better than they have been doing them in the

past. And are you, I was going to say, are you comfortable swimming against the tide, but

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