Lord Dunmore and the Proclamation That Ignited Revolution (with Bob Crawford of The Avett Brothers)
SNAFU with Ed Helms
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4.6 • 1.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Bob Crawford is a musician with a historian's heart. Bassist and founding member of The Avett Brothers, his expertise on the Founding Fathers of the United States comes in handy on today's SNAFU, where Ed and Bob delve into the folly of Lord Dunmore, a Scottish-born supporter of the King and assigned royal Governor of Virginia in the 1770s. When whispers of revolution were building to an insurmountable roar, Lord Dunmore inadvertently mobilized the revolutionary war cries with one massive misstep after another.
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| 0:00.0 | no Virginia they'll be like oh you dissolved bar burgesses exactly can we discuss this not in |
| 0:07.4 | Boston no you're so right the vibe was so different Sam Adams of course he's part of all this |
| 0:13.3 | sure you know he's just brewing beer and they're drinking it and they're getting pissed off |
| 0:18.1 | and you know they're ready to go yeah they're getting pissed off and, you know, they're ready to go. Yeah, they're riled up. Welcome to Snaffoo, your favorite podcast, your favorite podcast about history's great an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:43.4 | Welcome to Snapu, your favorite podcast about history's greatest screw-ups or more precisely a show about what our failures and foibles say about humanity as a whole. |
| 0:49.0 | And spoiler alert, it's mostly not very good. |
| 0:52.2 | I'm your host, Ed Helms, and my guest today is the definition of a multi-hyphenate. |
| 0:57.7 | He is the bassist and a founding member of one of my all-time favorite bands, the Avet Brothers. |
| 1:05.2 | He also is an historian. |
| 1:08.0 | I love this. |
| 1:08.7 | He hosts American History Hotline for IHeart Podcasts and The Road to Now on Sirius XM. And now his first book is coming out. It's called America's founding son, John Quincy Adams, from president to political maverick. I'm super excited to have him on snafu this week. Welcome, Bob Crawford. Thank you, Ed. It's a, it's a joy to be here. |
| 1:36.7 | Heck yeah. I mean, I have to say, I don't even remember when we met long, long time ago, but I have only very recently learned |
| 1:45.4 | of your history nerdiness, and this might be my new favorite thing about you. |
| 1:49.8 | It's one of the better things about me, so yes, pick that one and go with it. |
| 1:55.0 | Yeah, and it kind of comes out of the band. |
| 1:57.4 | You know, we've been together for 25 years, maybe going on 26. And all those years, |
| 2:04.5 | driving around in a 15 passenger van for eight hours a day, read, read, read. You know, |
| 2:10.8 | it was like the perfect time to read. And I got really curious about American history around |
| 2:15.5 | the time of the Iraq War. How did we get here? |
| 2:18.9 | Sure. From 1776 to Abu Ghraib, if you remember. Okay. Yeah. Iraqi prison. That's a crooked |
| 2:25.6 | line. That's a crooked line. It is a crooked line. And I want, and so I started with the David |
| 2:29.9 | McCullough books. This is 2004, 2005. Great. The John Adams 1776 led me to Sean Willens, |
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