Well, I was going to start by saying Lord Adonis, but you don't like me called Lord Adonis,

do you?

No, Andrew, please.

No.

I thought I might have to call you Lord Owen, and you wouldn't like that, would you?

When I was a kid, when David Owen, who is Lord Owen, appeared on the radio and television,

I did take to my parents that I thought they were talking about me.

So, well, in due course, Owen, it happens to most, most serious figures on the left,

they end up in the House of Lords.

What Lord Owen Jones has thought here?

I can't see you.

I want to start, Andrew, knocked off on my cap.

I want to start.

So, Keir Starman, now you did support Keir Starman in the leadership contest.

Why is it gone so wrong?

Well, he hasn't been able to hold his own so far against Boris Johnson,

and the question is whether he can establish a way of doing so.

He thinks it's because of the vaccine, and the vaccine bounced.

Maybe there is an element of that.

I mean, clearly, we have been in extraordinary circumstances for the last year.

I would notice that it looks as if they're going to be an election upset in Germany.

There was a massive upset in the United States.

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