Well then that's that's the eternal question right as an artist are you there if I if I were to say I was there I don't think I'd be an artist that was of any merit. Welcome everybody to Art Juice. This is honest, generous and humorous conversations that will feed your creative soul and get you thinking with me Alice Sheridan me Louise Fletcher and this is episode 109 and we are joined today by my colleague and art friend Gabe Lipper.

Now I never know, do you prefer Gabe or Gabriel?

Both work.

I always introduce myself as Gabriel

because people mistake my name for Dave otherwise.

So that gives me gives me an option.

Okay and just to confuse people even further on Instagram your Instagram handle is totally different so what's your

Instagram handle I'm eight like the number eight paint perfect yeah so we thought it would be a lovely time to get Gabe on and he and I were a

coach together. We worked together a couple of years ago and I just love his way of working because it's just

exquisite basically is the only word for it.

But he comes from a really strong, very well-trained observational background, which is kind of stuff that I covered but nowhere near to that extent and we thought that after last week's episode when we were talking about the process of abstraction it would be really nice to have somebody coming who really spends a lot of their time really looking and really seeing and really understanding objective form.

Is that fair to say?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's my, that's definitely my background.

Can I just interrupt and say on video, you guys can't see this,

but we have watched Gabe going from sitting in his studio now he's just

carrying himself into a cupboard can you just tell us what you're doing please I'm

sorry for that interruption I'm sure that's distracting Alice.

One of the ways that I stay creative is I have a large studio,

but I share it with three other artists. How does that sound? Can you tell that I'm in a different

It is perfect. You're in a box, but we can hear you in a box. Oh wonderful. Okay. So so I share it with

three other artists. And so when I'm doing an interview like this I'd like to honor our creative juice with, you know, a little bit of solitary interview of time I don't need to I don't need to you know bring that out on on everybody else okay they didn't need to hear that all right that makes perfect sense so we're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit more about your I suppose your views your approach your attitude to making art and what you do that's so special but tell us first of all we normally talk a bit about what we're

working on when you're not working on what you've been doing we should we had a

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