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And we're not live.

We are coming to you from the past. We want to make sure that we had something to accompany with you on Labor Day. We are off for Labor Day. Hopefully no one is laboring today. But if you are, because some people have to, we'll give you a little bit of entertainment. The hope for this episode is, it's just Eric and I, by the way, and welcome back to the Loopcast, brought to by the Loop, every American Catholic's favorite newsletter.

The goal is just... is it's just Eric and I, by the way, and welcome back to the Loopcast, brought to you by the loop,

every American Catholic's favorite newsletter. The goal is just kind of have a hangout, a chat. We just went on a fantastic corporate retreat. I saw some people commenting like, why is it secret? Why is this? It's like, I mean, it's not secret per se. It's just, you know, we don't want to giveaway location, whatever.

So we went on this fantastic retreat.

It was, so Kelsey, we don't want to give away location, whatever. So we wanted this fantastic retreat.

It was, so Kelsey, we did an interview with the president, which is fantastic. Check that out. I feel like I got to know her a lot better there. We got to hang out with her there in person. I got a good sense of future of the organization. You know, we got big plans ahead, that kind of thing. maybe we could reveal some stuff, not everything, but excited about that.

We actually were told to meditate upon Ram Navarum, which feels

very appropriate for Labor Day. And can I just say something that's really fun about that interview.

I was talking to one of our, our colleagues about this yesterday. But she said, you know how some people

who were in religious life,

like that they don't really talk about it. Like that was a period of their life and they're

kind of like moved on and they don't really like bring it up in conversation. Kelsey just like

leads with it. She's like, I was a nun. And it. Yeah, like I. I don't know enough X-cons, I guess.

Not a lot of ex-cons, but Kelsey just like led with it.

And what is more like Dominican, Nashville Dominican sister than I'm going to lead a corporate retreat and we're going to read Rayram Navarum and study it.

And historical content.

It was great.

Yeah, I don't know.

We have an X-Con.

We're housing an X-Con for a little bit longer before she goes off to Oxford. But, yeah, there was a, I had a funny moment too during this retreat because it was awesome and it was spiritual. And we had a shout out to our chaplain. I don't know if a name, not name. I'm a huge fan of his. But we had a chaplain lead it.

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