Hi, I'm Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And I'm Sarah Hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, and course creator.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

On the Best of Both Worlds Podcast each week, we share stories of how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career

goals, we want you to get the most out of life.

Listen to Best of Both Worlds every Tuesday on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is to loop for understanding.

This technique for challenging conversations

can help keep things from boiling over

and helps make sure that everyone feels heard.

Today's tip like another one this week comes from Charles Doohig's new book, Supercommunicators.

In this book, Doahig shares strategies

for having better conversations,

so you can connect with people more effectively.

Sometimes conversations are easy, and sometimes they are not.

Doig shares some stories of experiments that have brought together people with wildly different views on hot button topics and have taught them constructive conversational strategies.

One that all of us can try in our own lives

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