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Strict Scrutiny

Looking for Bright Spots in the Courts

Strict Scrutiny

Crooked Media

Philosophy, News, Government, Supreme Court, Society & Culture

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Leah is joined by guest co-host Skye Perryman, president & CEO of Democracy Forward, to discuss the week’s news, including the continued pushback on the shadow docket from the lower courts and Trump’s boundless abuse of Article II. Then Kate, Melissa, and Leah — along with special guest Sherrilyn Ifill — take a look at the impact of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, three years into her time on the Supreme Court.

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0:00.0

Strict scrutiny is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

0:04.4

You don't destroy 250 years of secular democracy without gutting precedent, shattering norms,

0:09.6

and dropping a few billion. The same people in groups that backed Project 2025 are part of a larger

0:14.6

shadow network that's relentlessly pushing to impose a Christian nationalist agenda on our laws

0:19.4

and lives. Church-state separation is the

0:22.1

bulwark blocking their agenda. One of the last bastions of church-state separation is our public

0:26.9

school system. So they're pushing for vouchers everywhere. They're arguing for religious public schools.

0:31.9

Yes, you heard that right, religious public schools, including at the Supreme Court in a case we talked

0:36.4

about on the podcast. If you're

0:38.4

listening to us, you're seeing the writing on the wall. We can, we must fight back. Join Americans

0:43.7

United for separation of church and state and their growing movement because church-state

0:47.7

separation protects us all. Learn more and get involved at AU.org slash crooked. Whenever anything is happening when it comes to reproductive

0:57.3

rights and justice, we immediately turn to the Boom Lawyered podcast by Rewire News Group,

1:02.8

hosted by Amani Gandhi and Jess Piaclo. Boone Lawyard brings some humanity and humor to the attacks on

1:08.6

bodily autonomy and our democracy at a time when we need it the

1:12.1

most. Nobody connects the dots with the same kind of smarts and irreverence as these two do.

1:16.9

New episodes drop on Thursdays. You can find Boom Lawyard on Apple, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.

1:22.9

Mr. Chief Justice, may it please support. It's an old joke, but when I argue men,

1:29.9

argues against two beautiful ladies like this,

1:32.2

they're going to have the last word.

1:35.1

She spoke, not elegantly, but with unmistakable clarity.

1:40.6

She said,

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