Welcome back to the Ten Blocks podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of CityJourn.

Earlier this month, our parent organization, the Manhattan Institute,

announced the launch of two new initiatives, the Policing and Public Safety Initiative,

which brings new focus to the Institute's criminal justice work and New York City Reborn,

which aims to provide an agenda for New York's post-pandemic recovery.

City Journal will be participating, of course, in each of those initiatives, and indeed,

for the New York City Reborn series we've already published a number of important pieces

on our website.

This week, though, the policing initiative hosted its first live stream event, the inaugural George L. Kelling Lecture,

which honors the work and legacy of the great criminologist and longtime colleague here at the Institute,

who passed away last year.

The lecture was delivered by our close friend Commissioner William Bratton,

who worked closely with Kelling during his entire career. You can check that out on the

Manhattan Institute's YouTube channel if you're interested. Coming up on the show today,

in honor of George Kelling, we thought we would replay an interview I recorded with him back in 2016.

At the time, George had recently written a book called Policing in Milwaukee,

a strategic history, and I interviewed him about its key takeaways,

and to talk about policing in America more broadly.

It was one of the first episodes we ever posted for 10

blocks, so I hope it won't be too familiar for our listeners. I'll remind you that it is still

an older interview, so some of the names and numbers you may hear could be a bit outdated,

but its arguments and analysis are entirely relevant, as you'll see.

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