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Hi, I'm Otto.

Welcome to Ellen Sarah's podcast.

Okay, guys, this is interesting what we're about to release for you guys. You always say that

solos are your favorite. So we thought, you know what we thought? We thought, let's release one of

the original good ones, like really good ones. Because we know that the OGs, they've heard it,

even though it's probably been a while, they've heard it. But we have a lot of new listeners

that have definitely not gone back to like 300 episodes ago. Also, we really brought it in the beginning. We had so much to talk about. I mean, now it's like we've said everything to each other. Well, I think, well, that's not true. We talk about current new things happening, but there was something about the early days where we just had never talked to each other like that. So we were

unpacking so many things, so many stories that, you know, you obviously don't do twice.

So, but the reason why I think this episode is perfect cystenemies is because it really shows

the growth. It shows how different you and I communicate. It shows our relationship

evolving. We were like so much more triggered by each other back then, right? Well, you were so

triggered by me. Like you literally were, like, you had five burn books under your bed dedicated

to me during this episode for sure. All well earned. Well, and I'm kind of like, la-di-da, you know. You've never been la-di-da in your life. No, I think but like to where you're concerned. I don't think so. Yeah. You know what? Everyone else, you guys can decide. Mm-hmm. You guys can decide. Let us know if we've grown.

This is a really... You're going to freaking, you know what you're going to do? You're going to be like, oh, I miss the old you guys. By the way, we could always un-evolve. They miss the unheeled. They're going to miss the unhealed version of us. Versions of us. Yeah. Oh, by the way, were you with Simon when we did this?

Yeah.

Okay, but early, right?

It was like kind of us. Versions of us. Yeah. Oh, by the way, were you with Simon when we did this?

Yeah.

Okay, but early, right? It was like kind of early days? We were already living in our Orlando house, so. But it wasn't serious, right? Like, were you guys like... It was kind of always serious. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, we were serious. That's not what he told him maybe.

Okay.

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