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Capehart

Lonnie Bunch contextualizes this fraught moment in America's racial narrative

Capehart

The Washington Post

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The 14th secretary of the Smithsonian Institution discusses the importance of Juneteenth, the Black Lives Matter movement and the need to face uncomfortable truths about our history.

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I'm Jonathan Capehart and this is Cape Up. Dr. Lonnie Bunch is the 14th Secretary of the

0:53.3

Smithsonian Institution. But he's the first African-American and first historian to lead it.

0:59.6

Thus, making him the perfect person to talk to you about this fraught moment in our nation's

1:04.8

racial narrative. Slavery may formally have ended in 1865, but its impact continues to this very day

1:12.1

and that we're all shaped by it. Dr. Bunch and I talk about Juneteenth, the importance of the 1619

1:19.2

project. What we could learn from Germany when it comes to grappling with the darkest chapters

1:23.4

of the American story. Why he applauds the Black Lives Matter movement and the outspokenness

1:28.6

of the President and Vice President of the United States. We talk about a lot and you can hear it

1:34.7

all right now.

1:46.0

Secretary Lonnie Bunch, welcome back to the podcast. What a treat to be with you. Thank you for

1:52.1

having me. So in getting ready for this interview, which is probably our third or fourth,

1:58.1

but you were my seventh number seven interview on this podcast after it first launched five years

2:08.5

ago this August. Our interview was in September of 2016 before the opening of the National Museum

2:15.2

of African-American History and Culture of which you are the founding director. But a lot has

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