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Inside the Hive

“Long-Term Disaster Is the Best-Case Scenario”: Author Nathaniel Rich Sounds the Alarm on Climate Change

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Floods, wildfires, skies filled with smoke and ash—it’s been a summer full of alarming signs of climate change. This week, journalist and novelist Nathaniel Rich joins Joe Hagan on Inside the Hive to discuss the looming catastrophe we’ve known about for decades but have consistently failed to slow, let alone stop. Should we take the climate fight to politicians and corporations, or is our system too hopelessly broken to respond to the earth’s rising temperatures? How much do individual choices like eating vegan or driving electric cars really help? The author of Losing Earth: A Recent History talks about his personal response as he paints a portrait of ignorance and bad faith among the powers that be. Rich also suggests new ways to change and deepen our relationship to our planet in crisis—including the power of fiction. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back to Inside the Hive.

0:37.1

This is your co-host Joe Hagen, Emily Jane Fox, still on maternity leave, paid leave with

0:45.0

her new baby, who we heard from last episode, we heard her squeak, and that was beautiful.

0:52.6

And now we're back this week, really, to talk about the future of the world that Emily

0:58.5

Jane Fox's child is inheriting, climate change.

1:03.5

And I was trying to think, who could we talk to about that?

1:06.8

We could bring scientists on, but scientists often they just get so wonky and you can't

1:11.4

relate it to your own life, and the big problem with climate change is trying to relate

1:16.4

this gigantic global galactic concept to your own life walking out of your door every

1:21.3

morning.

1:22.5

And so here we have today, Nathaniel Rich, journalist, author of a book, amazing book,

1:29.9

Losing Earth, a recent history.

1:33.2

Welcome.

1:34.2

Great to speak with you.

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