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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Long-Term Care Costs: Medicaid vs Private Pay, Plus Talking Money While Dating

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Investing, Education, Business, How To

4.3892 Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Learn about money dealbreakers in dating, then how to plan ahead for assisted living and Medicaid costs. First, hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola dig into a new dating dealbreakers study with NerdWallet spokesperson and credit card writer Sara Rathner. They unpack why “financial infidelity” can feel like a relationship ender, what people are most likely to hide, and how to start money conversations earlier without turning the third date into an audit. They also share ways to talk about spending, expectations, and values so you can spot incompatibilities before big commitments. Then, personal finance Nerd Kate Ashford (a certified senior advisor) helps answer a listener's question about caring for an aging parent and budgeting for senior living. She discusses how assisted living costs can vary dramatically by location, what’s typically included in base fees vs add-ons, and how “buy-in” communities like continuing care retirement communities (CCRCs) compare with standard monthly-pay models. They also walk through key planning moves if a future nursing home stay is possible, including what to know about Medicaid being state-run, where to start researching benefits, and how to prepare for the paperwork and timelines. 0:00 Who will care for you in old age? 0:52 Dating money dealbreakers: debt and financial lies 3:33 Why couples hide purchases and spending 5:59 Rebuilding trust after financial infidelity 8:14 Dealbreakers: tipping, splitting dates, savings 13:16 Talking money early: what’s a red flag? 18:02 No-spend challenge: Brick and cash-only 20:35 Friction hacks to curb impulse spending 21:49 Listener question: budgeting for senior care 23:40 Assisted living costs and what drives prices 31:02 Monthly vs buy-in CCRCs and refund rules 33:34 How long care lasts: model best/worst cases 38:00 Medicaid basics: eligibility, look-back, who can help 40:21 Final tips for families planning senior living NerdWallet Survey: One in 10 Americans Would Never Date Someone with Credit Card Debt https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/studies/data-undateable-debt  Cost of Long Term Care by State | Cost of Care Report | Carescout https://www.carescout.com/cost-of-care  Eldercare Locator https://eldercare.acl.gov/home  Medicaid.gov: The Official U.S. Government Site for Medicaid and CHIP Services | Medicaid https://www.medicaid.gov/  Medicaid Planning Assistance – Helping Americans obtain the Medicaid long term care they require https://www.medicaidplanningassistance.org/  Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:52.1

I think about this, but it's often not when I'm sitting. Usually when I'm out on a nice long run, I think about what's going to happen to me in my old age. And I'm hoping that my husband will be the one caring for me, that or a robot, or maybe both. A robot? We have to talk more about that later. Yeah, they'll be here any day now. I personally hope that my loved ones will take care of me, but nothing is guaranteed, you know.

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and for that reason, I'm stashing away as much money as I can in a high-yield savings account.

1:17.4

Now, this episode, we're going to go more into detail about paying for senior care.

1:24.2

Welcome to Nerd Wallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer

1:28.7

them with the help of our genius nerds. I'm Sean Piles. And I'm Elizabeth Ayola. During this

1:33.8

episode, we are going to answer listeners' question about paying for senior care. But first,

1:38.4

it's the month of love and we have a new study about dating deal breakers to speak with you all about.

1:43.1

Spokesperson and credit card writer Sarah Rathner is with us to talk about the study.

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