Hey guys, this is going to be a long run one-on-one really interesting, different type interview with my friend

Scott Rokus, who is a photographer, is an OG Van Life guy,

and Trailrunner.

And we talk about just about everything

you could ever think of.

He is passing through town,

stopped at my house and said, let talk and I said well we might as well record it and it's a nice long discussion about two friends about life and trail running and photography and music and I mean all kinds of crazy stuff pretty

typical out there interview so I hope you enjoy and this interview is brought to you by our partners on our partners page if you go to

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So all of our partners, thank you and on their behalf I present Mr Scott

Rochus This isn't a real show. This isn't a real show.

It's a great break in the

on a job.

It's time to run,

10 junk miles together.

10 junk miles together. 10 junk miles.

10 junk runs.

Don't miles. So we were talking. Yeah, so my dream is to get those two cameras and you're telling me that I should have the cameras for the whole show.

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