All right, you guys, this is going to be a long run episode of me and Jeff Stafford.

And if you don't know about him, he used to be a sometimes co-host on the East Coast Trail and Ultra running podcast, on the Adventure Jogger.

He's been around the sport for a long time.

He's done a lot of multi-day crazy stuff.

He can really shed some light on some of that.

And we had a really interesting conversation.

He's been recommended or requested by a number of you.

So I went ahead and got it done.

I want to just briefly apologize for the short laps.

Obviously, I was working on the Sugar Badger, which went amazing. Everybody had a really good time. If you didn't go, you missed out. There's no reason why you should just sign up for all of our races. Badgers coming up in August. You can do all the distances. Sign up, sign up, sign up. It's a lot of fun. It reminds me. It's like I work all year long and then right about before the race I start to think,

fuck these people.

I don't want to do this anymore.

This is a bunch of crap, you know?

And then I go to the race and I see everybody and I give the hugs and they tell me their stories and how they met each other.

And, you know, I see their faces at the finish line.

And it reminds me that all of this stuff has a purpose and the purpose is so that you guys don't have to

run and train by yourself so you guys can make a community and so you can make friends and so you

don't have to run alone and by doing that and helping me do that we can change the world and

I saw a lot of that this weekend so I really really appreciate it but we're going to be back to

our regularly scheduled programming, trying to get some

gang shows put together. That'll come soon. It's just a matter of, you know, logistics and stuff

like that. Now getting back on the swing of things. I have a ton of really good long runs. I have

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