Okay, you guys, this is going to be a long run episode. That means one-on-one in-depth discussion with Jimmy McCaffrey. And who's Jimmy, well, he used to be a personality on the culture at trail running podcast or maybe he is an on sabbatical

He's a race director. He's a guy that's been around the sport for a really long time. He's really interesting and I've had a few short conversations with him about

music and architecture and I've bought some vinyl records from him anyway there's a

lot of boxes that he checks I've always wanted to know more about him. He's a Badger 100 finisher, so I think you're going to like him. It's one of those where I have no idea what we're going to talk about and we're going to go where we go. This episode is brought to you by our friends of

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