Alright you guys, this is going to be a long run episode of me and Devon Yanco, who is amazing and interesting in a whole host of different ways and levels.

She is one ledville and Havelina and I mean just a whole host of other races. She's successful on all the different surfaces and she has a very interesting life story.

We get into a little bit of her past and we talk a lot about running on roads versus trails. It's a really good chat.

I wasn't a fan like throughout the years as much and then I've kind of like really grown to like her.

I ran into her at the henna pin and we had a nice talk and I knew that we were going to have a really good chat.

I've been following her substack, which I'll put a link to in the show notes.

She has a coaching business. I'll put that in the show notes. But it's a really really cool chat and she is a really cool lady and I think you're really going to like it.

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