All right, you guys, this is gonna be a long run episode of me and Ken Kruger, you know who he is?

Well, if you don't, he is the race director of the Arrowhead 135 Winter Ultra in International Falls, Minnesota.

Arrowhead's really hard. It's an iconic race. It's always listed as one of the hardest races out there.

Ken is very unlike the race that he puts on.

I've always wondered about him. What's his story? I wanted to know more about him.

We talk a little bit about Arrowhead. We talk a little bit about life, race directing, stuff like that.

But I was, you know, he didn't disappoint. I thought he was, I don't know, I'm gonna let you see.

There's a lot of things about him that are super, super interesting.

And I think one of them is the contrast between, you know, he has this, the Facebook page for the race as he may find yourself out there, you know,

alone, scared, sad, cold, you know, quit. That's what we want you to do.

You know, like that mentality, and it's just not the kind of mentality behind the person himself.

So it's kind of cool. Also kick ass athlete. He's a finisher of the order of the rimthers. He's a finisher of all of these races.

Arrowhead, Dyskobia, you know, he's, he's an act of epicum, done it on bike, done it on foot.

I mean, I think we forget sometimes that some of these RDs used to be or still are really, really good athletes too.

Anyway, I don't, I don't want to bore you. Let's just call me Cancour.

The winter people, I can love it.

Go back and listen to all the winter people. Listen to like all the I did a rod episode, kick coward, carrygivings,

that I, I TI special with Paul Schlagel dance later, Jeff Rock.

10 miles.

Steve Cannon, Pete Ripmaster, Jill Homer. Just so many.

Hello, Scott.

Ken Kruger, how are you?

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