And the I'm going to tell him drunk.

Tenchun-plang. Ten miles. Hey everybody this is going to be a long run between me and John Storkamp.

John is an ultra runner.

He's a race director.

He's a trail runner.

He's a winter runner.

He's a race.

He also does a race director of the Superior Sawtooth 100,

amongst several other races, and he's a sober guy like me.

So welcome to the show, John. Scott, thanks for having me.

I'm really excited about getting to know you because you're someone that I've followed

for a really long time, someone that everybody knows in the Midwest, and you're someone that I've never heard,

you know, give an interview on a podcast or in a, you know, in a media form.

The only thing that I ever remember hearing about you in terms of your background was that

Trail Runner magazine expose that I saw recently, maybe like a year or so ago.

So just as an initial question, you know, how did you first get into running?

You know, like what is, where did your running background start?

You know, I think I was my mom was bringing me to shop at the Husky Department of Kmart and Pomita when I was a kid.

So I think my early years I saw my sister going out the door to go on runs for the cross-country

team when she was in junior high and that kind of dawned on me that I should go out and maybe try to do the same thing.

So I remember a few times squeezing into some like shiny 80s vintage Nike running types a couple of times and going out jogging in my you know skateboard shoes so you know the idea or concept of going out you know running just for the sake of going for a run,

struck me pretty early in my life probably, I mean, I was 10 years old or something like that.

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