Long Reads: The Gaza Massacre w/ Bashir Abu-Manneh
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🗓️ 7 December 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
The estimated number of Palestinians killed or missing in the occupied territories since this war began is now 24,000 people — twenty times as many Israelis as were killed on October 7th. US government officials claim to have privately told Israel that it “must do more to limit civilian casualties” as the focus of the operation moves south. However, there is no evidence of any change in Israel's approach as the focus shifts from northern to southern Gaza and the relentless bombardment of civilian targets continues.
Palestinian academic Bashir Abu-Manneh joins for another special episode of Long Reads to discuss the latest developments in Israel's war on Gaza. Bashir is a reader in Postcolonial Literature at the University of Kent and the author of The Palestinian Novel: From 1948 to the Present. He’s also a contributing editor at Jacobin who’s written many articles for us about Palestinian politics, including, most recently, "Israel Can’t Win Peace Militarily. Palestinian Democracy Is the Solution." https://jacobin.com/2023/11/israel-us-gaza-postwar-plan-nakba-palestinian-democracy
Other articles and videos mentioned in the podcast:
Josh Paul on CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5106v4b05I
Washington Post, "White House grapples with internal divisions on Israel-Gaza" by Yasmeen Abutaleb and John Hudson: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/26/biden-white-house-divisions-israel-gaza/
+972, "‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza" by Yuval Abraham: https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/
Al-Shabaka, "An Inevitable Rupture: Al-Aqsa Flood and the End of Partition" by Tareq Baconi: https://al-shabaka.org/commentaries/an-inevitable-rupture-al-aqsa-flood-and-the-end-of-partition/
Long Reads is a Jacobin podcast looking in-depth at political topics and thinkers, both contemporary and historical, with the magazine’s longform writers. Hosted by features editor Daniel Finn. Produced by Conor Gillies, music by Knxwledge.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello you're very welcome to Long Reed's a Jacobin podcast where we look in depth of political topics and thinkers. |
| 0:07.0 | My name's Daniel Finn and the features editor here at Jacobin and I'll be presenting the show. This is another special episode of long reads |
| 0:16.2 | that we've recorded because of the Israeli war on Gaza. I spoke to Palestinian academic |
| 0:21.6 | Bashir Abu Manne about the latest developments. |
| 0:25.0 | Bashir is a reader in post-colonial literature at the University of Kent and the author of |
| 0:30.7 | The Palestinian novel from 1948 to the present. |
| 0:35.2 | He's also a contributing editor at Jacobin, |
| 0:37.6 | who's written many articles for us about Palestinian politics. |
| 0:42.0 | Before we go to Bashir, we're going to play a clip from an interview with Josh Pole, |
| 0:46.8 | a State Department official who resigned in protest and spoke to CNN about his reasons for doing so. |
| 0:54.0 | What makes you say that this is so different |
| 0:57.1 | to have caused you to have resigned? |
| 0:59.5 | So a number of factors, the first of which |
| 1:01.4 | is just the scope and the scale you know here we |
| 1:04.1 | we are two months into this conflict and we have seen three times more children |
| 1:08.8 | die 6,000 in Gaza than in two years of Russia's war against Ukraine. We have seen over 50 |
| 1:14.9 | journalists killed, over 100 UN aid workers, over 200 medical professionals. |
| 1:20.1 | You know, do you know what it takes to be a doctor in Gaza? |
| 1:23.0 | So the scale... |
| 1:24.0 | We've interviewed a lot of them and it's a terrible situation for them. |
| 1:26.0 | The scale of the loss has been astounding and of course my role in the State Department |
| 1:30.0 | involves approving many of these major arms transfers that are going to Israel right now |
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