Long Reads: Preventing a New Nakba w/ Bashir Abu-Manneh
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🗓️ 18 October 2023
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Summary
This is a special episode of Long Reads that we’ve recorded because of the war in Gaza. Dan speaks with Palestinian academic Bashir Abu-Manneh about the situation that’s developed over the last week and what’s likely to happen next. Bashir is a Reader in Postcolonial Literature at the University of Kent and the author of The Palestinian Novel: From 1948 to the Present.
Bashir is also a contributing editor at Jacobin who’s written many articles about Palestinian politics, including, most recently, "Israel’s Assault on Gaza Is Part of Its Permanent War on Palestinians": https://jacobin.com/2023/10/israel-palestine-gaza-strip-permanent-war-international-law-air-strikes
By October 16th, when this interview was recorded, Israeli air strikes had killed at least 2,800 people in Gaza, including more than seven hundred children. The following day, we saw the greatest single loss of life to date, with hundreds killed by an explosion at a hospital in Gaza. Western leaders are still refusing to call for a ceasefire.
A lightly edited transcript of this interview can be found here: https://jacobin.com/2023/10/gaza-war-israel-apartheid-international-solidarity-movement
Long Reads is a Jacobin podcast looking in-depth at political topics and thinkers, both contemporary and historical, with the magazine’s longform writers. Hosted by features editor Daniel Finn. Produced by Conor Gillies, music by Knxwledge.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, you're very welcome to Long Reads, a Jacobin podcast where we look in |
| 0:04.5 | depth at political topics and thinkers. My name's Daniel Finn and the features |
| 0:09.4 | editor here at Jacobin, and I'll be presenting the show. This is a special |
| 0:15.0 | episode of Long Reads that we've recorded at short notice because of the war |
| 0:18.7 | in Gaza. I spoke to Palestinian academic Bashir Abu Maneh about the situation |
| 0:24.4 | that's developed over the last week and what's likely to happen next. Bashir is |
| 0:29.6 | a reader in post-colonial literature at the University of Kent, and the author |
| 0:33.9 | of the Palestinian novel from 1948 to the present. He's also a contributing |
| 0:39.7 | editor at Jacobin, who's written many articles for us about Palestinian |
| 0:43.8 | politics. Things are moving very rapidly from one day to the next. Our conversation |
| 0:49.3 | was recorded on Monday, October 16th, but it's already clear that the Israeli |
| 0:54.0 | government is engaged in collective punishment of the people of Gaza. Speaking |
| 0:59.0 | at a press conference last week, the Israeli President Isaac Herzog explicitly |
| 1:04.0 | blamed the civilian population of Gaza for the actions of Hamas. It's an |
| 1:08.1 | entire nation out there that is responsible. It's not true. This rhetoric about |
| 1:14.8 | civilians not aware, not aware, not involved. It's absolutely not true. They |
| 1:21.1 | could have risen up. They could have fought against that evil regime, which took |
| 1:25.2 | over Gaza in a coup d'etat, but we're at war. We are at war. We're at war with |
| 1:31.6 | our, we're defending our homes. We're protecting our homes. And then when a |
| 1:36.5 | nation protects its home, it fights. And we will fight until we'll break their |
| 1:41.1 | backbone. By October 16th, Israeli airstrikes had killed at least 2,800 |
| 1:47.3 | people in Gaza, including more than 700 children. Speaking on Britain's Sky |
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