Hello, you're very welcome to Longreads, a Jacobin podcast where we look in

depth at political topics and thinkers. My name's Daniel Finn, and the features

editor here at Jacobin, and I'll be presenting the show. The Italian regime of

Panito Mussolini crushed its domestic opponents and invaded foreign

countries to the sound of the following tune. Italy's current prime minister,

Georgia Malone, can trace her political roots all the way back to Mussolini, but

she prefers a different musical style. Along with the work of Ed Sheeran, Malone

quoted the following song by Maroon V in support of her political vision.

Musical taste aside, what does the Italian far right of today have in common with

its fascist forebears? Our guest today is David Broder. David is

Europeditor for Jacobin, and the author of several books about Italian

politics and history. His latest work, Mussolini's Grand Children, has just

been published by Pluto Press. This is the second part of a two-part interview.

Today we'll be looking at the rise and record of Georgia Malone. You can hear the

first part of David's interview about the Italian far right on Jacobin radio.

What is the political background of Georgia Malone, and how did she come to be

the leader of a new party for Italy? Well, the book is called Mussolini's Grand

Children, so there's an idea of kind of generational turnover. Obviously I'm

aware that generations don't exist, and so far as they don't have fixed

boundaries, but we certainly can say that different leaders, different figures

have had different political experiences, and somehow reflect the moment in

which they grew up politically. So if we take Georgia Malone, she joined the MSI

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